Discussion:
Poles and Liars
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Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-19 22:13:51 UTC
Permalink
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.

And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
Loading Image...

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(Loading Image...),
one (um) jumped-up twit

one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
dechucka
2015-03-19 22:22:32 UTC
Permalink
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them
For 99 years so what is the difference?

and
Post by Abusive Liar Party
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
It is bad to the budget according to UBS. As well Baird is saying that as
only 49% is being effectively sold it will still be goverement run
Post by Abusive Liar Party
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
How?
Petzl
2015-03-20 00:27:44 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html

It's not taught in school, but our Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Halal certified products unfit for Christian consuption
Cursed by God!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-halal-in-australia/halal-certified-list-in-categories-still-working-on/466200376862104
Some examples first and second of God's ten commandments,"1 COR 8"," "Acts 15:29",etc. First testament ("Exodus 20:4") has people breaking out in boils, first born dying, famine, pestilence and much more
dechucka
2015-03-20 00:43:59 UTC
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Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Well not really they got UBS, who mind you will make $millions from the sale
( sorry 99 year lease) , to change their 'independent' report to take out
references to the sale being bad for the budget.

Admittedly Foley is playing loose with the truth about the $1.7 billion
dividend stream because if it is kept at the same rate it is expected to
drop, of course the dividend can always be increased
Petzl
2015-03-20 01:20:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Well not really they got UBS, who mind you will make $millions from the sale
( sorry 99 year lease) , to change their 'independent' report to take out
references to the sale being bad for the budget.
Admittedly Foley is playing loose with the truth about the $1.7 billion
dividend stream because if it is kept at the same rate it is expected to
drop, of course the dividend can always be increased
Present returns are around $500 million with all sorts of technology
coming forward to reduce returns.
Private enterprise can deal with this better than Luck Foley can.
See Foley catch a train (snout, trotters and trough) go two stations
then return back to his tax payer limousine.

Years before that Labor cancelled the first Tangara East Hills line
train, due at 5am, replaced with a red rattler. Labor, although sacked
flew by helicopter (Unsworth) and rode the train to East Hills to
again transfer to limousine (fuck the working class attitude of Labor
still today)
--
Petzl
A two-party system gives the voter only one more choice than North Korea.

In a democracy of course you always get a choice
Do you want to be governed by the red or by the blue?
it's entirely up to you!
Do you want to be patronized or condescended to, by liars or by crooks? You get to choose.
Would you prefer your fundamental values to be insulted or ignored by con-men or by charlatans?
In short do you want your influence to be zero or nil
and when would you like to be listened to, never or not at all, it's your choice
Do you want, some more choices.
take-it-or-leave-it
Now there's a real choice I'd be happy with any kind of representation wouldn't you
I would like to see a new government and part of me doesn't give a
damn who's in it as long as it doesn't include anybody from the Labor, Liberal or
Green party organizations that show themselves to be without shame or principle

All spineless and authoritarian both cowardly and war mongering at the same time
we have proportional voting in Australia USE IT

Put Labor, Liberal and Green party last on your Ballot choose your
independant or small parties first then donkey vote down to those last
on your ballot. Stops the majors getting OVER $2.50 a 1st preferance vote
dechucka
2015-03-20 01:26:13 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Well not really they got UBS, who mind you will make $millions from the sale
( sorry 99 year lease) , to change their 'independent' report to take out
references to the sale being bad for the budget.
Admittedly Foley is playing loose with the truth about the $1.7 billion
dividend stream because if it is kept at the same rate it is expected to
drop, of course the dividend can always be increased
Present returns are around $500 million with all sorts of technology
coming forward to reduce returns.
Private enterprise can deal with this better than Luck Foley can.
How are they going to do it with the poles and wires?
Post by Petzl
See Foley catch a train (snout, trotters and trough) go two stations
then return back to his tax payer limousine.
Years before that Labor cancelled the first Tangara East Hills line
train, due at 5am, replaced with a red rattler. Labor, although sacked
flew by helicopter (Unsworth) and rode the train to East Hills to
again transfer to limousine (fuck the working class attitude of Labor
still today)
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
Petzl
2015-03-20 02:43:42 UTC
Permalink
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Well not really they got UBS, who mind you will make $millions from the sale
( sorry 99 year lease) , to change their 'independent' report to take out
references to the sale being bad for the budget.
Admittedly Foley is playing loose with the truth about the $1.7 billion
dividend stream because if it is kept at the same rate it is expected to
drop, of course the dividend can always be increased
Present returns are around $500 million with all sorts of technology
coming forward to reduce returns.
Private enterprise can deal with this better than Luck Foley can.
How are they going to do it with the poles and wires?
You figure it out.
Already provided link where the video interview explains the ins and
out
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
See Foley catch a train (snout, trotters and trough) go two stations
then return back to his tax payer limousine.
Years before that Labor cancelled the first Tangara East Hills line
train, due at 5am, replaced with a red rattler. Labor, although sacked
flew by helicopter (Unsworth) and rode the train to East Hills to
again transfer to limousine (fuck the working class attitude of Labor
still today)
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
That's just it. SACKING Labor bringing in Barry Robert O'Farrell
public transport has improved in leaps and bounds continually getting
better, really love the Opal card cheaper and quicker!
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html

It's not taught in school, but our Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Halal certified products unfit for Christian consuption
Cursed by God!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-halal-in-australia/halal-certified-list-in-categories-still-working-on/466200376862104
Some examples first and second of God's ten commandments,"1 COR 8"," "Acts 15:29",etc. First testament ("Exodus 20:4") has people breaking out in boils, first born dying, famine, pestilence and much more
dechucka
2015-03-20 02:53:14 UTC
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Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Well not really they got UBS, who mind you will make $millions from the sale
( sorry 99 year lease) , to change their 'independent' report to take out
references to the sale being bad for the budget.
Admittedly Foley is playing loose with the truth about the $1.7 billion
dividend stream because if it is kept at the same rate it is expected to
drop, of course the dividend can always be increased
Present returns are around $500 million with all sorts of technology
coming forward to reduce returns.
Private enterprise can deal with this better than Luck Foley can.
How are they going to do it with the poles and wires?
You figure it out.
Already provided link where the video interview explains the ins and
out
Post by dechucka
Post by Petzl
See Foley catch a train (snout, trotters and trough) go two stations
then return back to his tax payer limousine.
Years before that Labor cancelled the first Tangara East Hills line
train, due at 5am, replaced with a red rattler. Labor, although sacked
flew by helicopter (Unsworth) and rode the train to East Hills to
again transfer to limousine (fuck the working class attitude of Labor
still today)
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
That's just it. SACKING Labor bringing in Barry Robert O'Farrell
public transport has improved in leaps and bounds continually getting
better, really love the Opal card cheaper and quicker!
not my experience but good luck to you
Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-20 07:45:33 UTC
Permalink
...
Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
That's just it. SACKING Labor bringing in Barry Robert O'Farrell
public transport has improved in leaps and bounds continually getting
better, really love the Opal card cheaper and quicker!
Why do you bother discussing anything with that moron?

The Metro-buses mean that you don't need a timetable, there's a bus
every 5 or 10 minutes.

Labor spent 11 years trying to implement e-Ticketing and all they
managed to do was bankrupt the company doing the job.

Fucking ALP idiots led by Bob Carr demanded a *security* *deposit* in
the tender. That meant that little Aussie battler companies were at a
disadvantage competing with the likes of IBM or HP. You can imagine that
the interest a small IT company has to pay the bank would be
considerably much higher than a AAA-rated government would pay, so it
ends up costing the taxpayer more. In the case of e-Ticketing the
fuckwit ALP ended up paying millions and *nothing* was delivered.

Gladys Berejiklian comes onto the scene and it's all *done* in less than
1 term. There are a few little wrinkles and the privacy is an issue, but
basically it is done.

The ALP are totally & utterly *useless* and they always will be because
they are led by unionist morons who have no skills. The current leader
was parachuted into the role after the other candidates stood aside. Did
someone threaten them like Shorten threatened Kathy Jackson?
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Petzl
2015-03-20 09:28:49 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:45:33 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
...
Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
That's just it. SACKING Labor bringing in Barry Robert O'Farrell
public transport has improved in leaps and bounds continually getting
better, really love the Opal card cheaper and quicker!
Why do you bother discussing anything with that moron?
The Metro-buses mean that you don't need a timetable, there's a bus
every 5 or 10 minutes.
Labor spent 11 years trying to implement e-Ticketing and all they
managed to do was bankrupt the company doing the job.
Fucking ALP idiots led by Bob Carr demanded a *security* *deposit* in
the tender. That meant that little Aussie battler companies were at a
disadvantage competing with the likes of IBM or HP. You can imagine that
the interest a small IT company has to pay the bank would be
considerably much higher than a AAA-rated government would pay, so it
ends up costing the taxpayer more. In the case of e-Ticketing the
fuckwit ALP ended up paying millions and *nothing* was delivered.
Gladys Berejiklian comes onto the scene and it's all *done* in less than
1 term. There are a few little wrinkles and the privacy is an issue, but
basically it is done.
The ALP are totally & utterly *useless* and they always will be because
they are led by unionist morons who have no skills. The current leader
was parachuted into the role after the other candidates stood aside. Did
someone threaten them like Shorten threatened Kathy Jackson?
Under Liberal I now have a bus stop about 50 metres from my gate under
Labor no buses, the buses are all air-conditioned and are wheel chair
friendly, also reliable. Under Labor no buses!
The east hill/glenfield trains are spotless new air conditioned under
labor mainly no air-conditioning unreliable, squalid and stunk, often
missing station stops without warning. Often had to pick people up in
my street as train would not complete trip.

Complained to state rail about frequently not completing trip to
Macarthur Station their response was to get official number of times
that train failed to arrive I would have to pay a $30 p/hr fee "Nageb
Al-Malah", freedom of information officer to maybe find out?

YES the ALP are totally & utterly *useless*
NOT SURE WHO RUNS THEM IT'S NOT VOTERS!
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html

It's not taught in school, but our Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Halal certified products unfit for Christian consuption
Cursed by God!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-halal-in-australia/halal-certified-list-in-categories-still-working-on/466200376862104
Some examples first and second of God's ten commandments,"1 COR 8"," "Acts 15:29",etc. First testament ("Exodus 20:4") has people breaking out in boils, first born dying, famine, pestilence and much more
Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-20 10:43:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:45:33 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
...
Post by Petzl
Post by dechucka
If your upset by public transport problems this mob is just as bad if not
worse. Timetabling is stuffed, the huge plan for the NW rail will dump
thousands at Chatswood and the Opal system is a farce
That's just it. SACKING Labor bringing in Barry Robert O'Farrell
public transport has improved in leaps and bounds continually getting
better, really love the Opal card cheaper and quicker!
Why do you bother discussing anything with that moron?
The Metro-buses mean that you don't need a timetable, there's a bus
every 5 or 10 minutes.
Labor spent 11 years trying to implement e-Ticketing and all they
managed to do was bankrupt the company doing the job.
Fucking ALP idiots led by Bob Carr demanded a *security* *deposit* in
the tender. That meant that little Aussie battler companies were at a
disadvantage competing with the likes of IBM or HP. You can imagine that
the interest a small IT company has to pay the bank would be
considerably much higher than a AAA-rated government would pay, so it
ends up costing the taxpayer more. In the case of e-Ticketing the
fuckwit ALP ended up paying millions and *nothing* was delivered.
Gladys Berejiklian comes onto the scene and it's all *done* in less than
1 term. There are a few little wrinkles and the privacy is an issue, but
basically it is done.
The ALP are totally & utterly *useless* and they always will be because
they are led by unionist morons who have no skills. The current leader
was parachuted into the role after the other candidates stood aside. Did
someone threaten them like Shorten threatened Kathy Jackson?
Under Liberal I now have a bus stop about 50 metres from my gate under
Labor no buses, the buses are all air-conditioned and are wheel chair
friendly, also reliable. Under Labor no buses!
The east hill/glenfield trains are spotless new air conditioned under
labor mainly no air-conditioning unreliable, squalid and stunk, often
missing station stops without warning. Often had to pick people up in
my street as train would not complete trip.
Complained to state rail about frequently not completing trip to
Macarthur Station their response was to get official number of times
that train failed to arrive I would have to pay a $30 p/hr fee "Nageb
Al-Malah", freedom of information officer to maybe find out?
YES the ALP are totally & utterly *useless*
NOT SURE WHO RUNS THEM IT'S NOT VOTERS!
Unions.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-20 02:07:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
It is a good question why so few of Labor's NSW Right haven't been
locked up.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Petzl
2015-03-20 02:46:10 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:07:31 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
It is a good question why so few of Labor's NSW Right haven't been
locked up.
Seems ALP and LNP have dirt on each other
LNP being far "cleaner"
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html

It's not taught in school, but our Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Halal certified products unfit for Christian consuption
Cursed by God!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-halal-in-australia/halal-certified-list-in-categories-still-working-on/466200376862104
Some examples first and second of God's ten commandments,"1 COR 8"," "Acts 15:29",etc. First testament ("Exodus 20:4") has people breaking out in boils, first born dying, famine, pestilence and much more
Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-20 07:50:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:07:31 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
It is a good question why so few of Labor's NSW Right haven't been
locked up.
Seems ALP and LNP have dirt on each other
LNP being far "cleaner"
The LNP members were forced to resign over political donations. The
donations were used for political campaigning - there was no question of
any corruption or theft.

They breached a stupid law passed by the ALP to rein in corrupt ALP members.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
Petzl
2015-03-20 09:29:41 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:50:58 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:07:31 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
It is a good question why so few of Labor's NSW Right haven't been
locked up.
Seems ALP and LNP have dirt on each other
LNP being far "cleaner"
The LNP members were forced to resign over political donations. The
donations were used for political campaigning - there was no question of
any corruption or theft.
They breached a stupid law passed by the ALP to rein in corrupt ALP members.
Doubt if ALP comply
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html

It's not taught in school, but our Constitutional Monarchy places us under God - the Christian God, whose compound redemptive Name is Lord Jesus Christ.

Halal certified products unfit for Christian consuption
Cursed by God!
https://www.facebook.com/notes/boycott-halal-in-australia/halal-certified-list-in-categories-still-working-on/466200376862104
Some examples first and second of God's ten commandments,"1 COR 8"," "Acts 15:29",etc. First testament ("Exodus 20:4") has people breaking out in boils, first born dying, famine, pestilence and much more
Abusive Liar Party
2015-03-20 20:11:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:50:58 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 13:07:31 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Petzl
On Fri, 20 Mar 2015 09:13:51 +1100, Abusive Liar Party
Post by Abusive Liar Party
The Liberals are *not* selling the poles & wires, only leasing them and
only 50% and it won't cost you anything, you'll save money directly
because privately-run systems are *proven* to be cheaper.
And then thee are the indirect/consequent benefits of reducing traffic
congestion and lowering export/transport costs.
and the Liberals are being upfront abut it
Unlike Labor LYING
http://bit.ly/1H89cJK
It is a good question why so few of Labor's NSW Right haven't been
locked up.
Seems ALP and LNP have dirt on each other
LNP being far "cleaner"
The LNP members were forced to resign over political donations. The
donations were used for political campaigning - there was no question of
any corruption or theft.
They breached a stupid law passed by the ALP to rein in corrupt ALP members.
Doubt if ALP comply
Nope.

"The ALP has *not* *made* *up* *its* *mind* whether to expel four party
members named in Wollongong's corruption inquiry".

Comment: Note the vague, general to 'The ALP' as if it is a personality
instead of a bunch of faceless twonks, pulling strings.

"Former councillors Kiril Jonovski, Frank Gigliotti, Val Zanotto and
Zeki Esen were named in the ICAC inquiry alongside former Wollongong
City Council sustainability manager and senior Labor Party figure Joe
Scimone.
...
ICAC released its second report into the matter last week which found
developer Frank Vellar and former Wollongong planner Beth Morgan engaged
in serious corrupt conduct when they engineered the approval of the $100
million Quattro development.The council was sacked in March by ICAC
commissioner Jerrold Cripps, QC".

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/606159/alp-undecided-on-fate-of-icac-four/

One of them even claimed that ICAC was corrupt!


Where are they now?

"Zeki Esen and Kiril Jonovski may stand for council again"
http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/636554/zeki-esen-and-kiril-jonovski-may-stand-for-council-again/

"Ex-Wollongong councillor [Frank Gigliotti] jailed for lying"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-11-29/ex-wollongong-councillor-jailed-for-lying/2355652

"DISGRACED ALP official Joe Scimone left Wollongong Council in NSW with
a *substantial* *payout* and a reference despite a sexual harassment
claim having been lodged against him by four female staff.
It was the reference from former general manager Rod Oxley that clinched
Mr Scimone a $200,000 a year job at NSW Maritime earlier this year, an
ICAC inquiry into corruption heard yesterday".

The ALP (Morris Iemma) banned political donations from Developers as a
result of this case, because they COULDN'T TRUST THEMSELVES.

By contrast, when Libs were caught taking donations from developers
(*not* corruptly) in breach of this law, they were *immediately*
suspended by Baird.

Thus the Liberal party is clean. The ALP suffers from the same endeic
disease of corruption because THE CROOKS ARE IN CHARGE.


The Greens can be a bit nutty at times, but they are seldom corrupt:

"After the sacking, to avoid annihilation at the NSW local government
election in September, Iemma installed administrators to run WCC. Now,
having lost the democratic right to clean out the council themselves,
the people of Wollongong face four years of an unelected 'council' run
by three people appointed by the same ALP machine that generated the
stinking mess in the first place!"
https://www.greenleft.org.au/node/39470

Greens supporters should put ALP last on the ballot.
Post by Petzl
--
Petzl
The Christian Democratic Party
http://www.cdp.org.au/what-is-cdp.html
--
This is what Australia would look like with the ALP and without iron ore
and coal:
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=greece+riots&tbm=isch

Tax Receipts, Costello: 2003-07: 982,341
Tax Receipts, Swan: 2007-11: 1,174,203
Difference: ONE HUNDRED AND NINETY-ONE BILLION DOLLARS
http://www.treasury.gov.au/Policy-Topics/Taxation/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Pocket-Guide-to-the-Australian-Tax-System/Appendix-C

ALP ineptitude = $20b opening balance + $280b closing balance + $191b
more revenue = $491b

So what did Labor leave as a legacy after WASTING $491 BILLION?
NO INFRASTRUCTURE
600,000 MORE UNEMPLOYED
60,000 VISA CHEATS
14,000+ PAGES OF LEGISLATION
1 X MISOGYNY SPEECH

ALP versus Jobs:
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2014/October/5842-monthly.JPG

The Basic Laws of Australian Labor:
"A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a
group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly
incurring losses"
http://www.zoon.cc/stupid/

Labor's scorecard:
600,000 more unemployed, 3 minus 3 car manufacturers equals zero,
Whyalla on life support, a decimated aluminium industry, doubled
electricity prices, quarter of a million immigrants and no new
infrasructure, fourteen thousand new pages of legislation, one abuse
hypocritical and silly speech on 'misogyny', four deceased apprentices,
one thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers, a handbag with an
affinity for being fingered (up the rear) by small Asian women, one
"world's greatest finance minister", three huge unfunded promises,
cancellation of the "$500b investment pipeline", another stolen
generation, 1,000 kids in detention, 50,000 unwanted & unqualified visa
cheats
(http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210),
two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president, one paedophile
- convicted, that is, one former rape suspect, one lazy Victorian police
force, insufficient evidence, lost evidence, destruction of evidence and
half a trillion dollars of debt, one squandered mining boom
(http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif),
one (um) jumped-up twit http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To
one minus one democracy (http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905) and
last but not least ... the first fat arsed PM in Australian history
(http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale).

#auspol #ausdebate
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