Discussion:
"Only 15 per cent of eligible households take up NBN wireless"
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Abusive Liar Party
2014-07-01 05:02:53 UTC
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"106,000 premises were eligible for NBN fixed wireless but only 16,000
were using the service".

http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/548912/only_15_per_cent_eligible_households_take_up_nbn_wireless/

Any surprises?

No, neither is this!

"The review also found NBN Co's Long Term Satellite Service (LTSS),
designed to deliver connectivity in areas not covered by fixed line and
fixed wireless, is *behind* schedule".


All a bit curious really, cos in May they claimed that they had
*underestimated* demand outside the NBN Fixed line footprint - without
citing the details of the study...

"In May NBN Co released a report that said that the plan to deliver
broadband services to the 7-8 per cent of population outside the NBN
fixed line footprint woefully *underestimates* the *demand* in those areas".

Who's willing to bet LTSS ain't ever gonna happen?
--
Why we kicked out the ALP:
http://nicholsoncartoons.com.au/labor-eyes-super-system-to-fund-budget-surplus-business.html

Bill Shorten, "Oh, yeah, I believe him"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/alp-must-clear-the-air-on-links-to-union/story-fni0ffxg-1226831907309

Australian Liar Party:
"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

"Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that"

Labor's speechwriter...
On Gillard:
"She has not much except a kindergarten sandpit response to things"
"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a 20-year
stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces every
time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no influence, no
friends, no learning. There's not much there"

Latham (after she touched his chest in an interview):
"The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man
and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary".

Labornomics:
Loading Image...

Labor's (overcrowded) sweat shops:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/centrelink-workers-timed-on-the-toilet/story-e6frfm9r-1226128924769


Because of Labor:
* Australia is currently paying $1 billion a month in interest;
* Australia would have the fastest growth in *spending* and 3rd fastest
growth in net *debt* of 17 countries profiled by the IMF;
* As a result, without action, Australia’s gross debt would rise to $667
billion, with an interest bill of nearly $3 billion a month

The ALP 'achievements':
1. Six hundred thousand more unemployed
2. Three fewer car manufacturers (3 minus 3 equals zero)
3. A decimated aluminium industry
4. Doubled electricity costs
5. Quarter of a million immigrants without *any* new infrasructure
6. Fourteen thousand plus pages of legislation.
7. Thousands of words of abuse
8. Four deceased apprentices
9. One thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers
10. A handbag with an affinity for small Asian women
11. A world's greatest treasurer
12. Three huge promises (Gonski, NDIS and health)
13. Cancellation of half of the "$500b investment pipeline"
14. Another stolen generation of Aboriginal kids
15. 1,000 asylum seeker kids in detention
16. 50,000 unwanted, unqualified visa cheats.
17. Two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president
18. One paedophile. One convicted, that is.
19. A prime suspect for rape.
Speaking of which:
20. Several seemingly endless investigations
21. A AAA-rated slush fund manager
22. Half a trillion dollars of debt

The ALP's war on money:
Loading Image...

Who squandered the mining boom?
Loading Image...

The ALP's war on Australia:
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905

The ALP's preference to Gillard...


Labor's legacy:
http://www.laborsmess.com.au/
Loading Image...

Loading Image...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210

"Don't write crap. Can't be that hard. And when you have written
complete crap, then I think you should correct it" - Julia Gillard
http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale

"Socialism or Communism; the first is suicide, the second murder. In the
end you have a dead body either way" - Ayn Rand

#auspol #ausdebate
Dechucka
2014-07-01 05:23:55 UTC
Permalink
Post by Abusive Liar Party
"106,000 premises were eligible for NBN fixed wireless but only 16,000
were using the service".
http://www.computerworld.com.au/article/548912/only_15_per_cent_eligible_households_take_up_nbn_wireless/
Any surprises?
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what they
have. It's called CHOICE
Don McKenzie
2014-07-01 06:42:28 UTC
Permalink
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.

I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it
is up to me to make alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.

Cheers Don...
--
Don McKenzie

http://www.dontronics-shop.com

All Olimex products now 30% to 90% off normal Olimex Prices.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/olimex-ltd.html
Many other items discounted up to 90% off.
Also discounts on FTDI, Sparkfun, mELABS, CCS, SimmStick, etc.
Dechucka
2014-07-01 08:36:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
that would be copper would it?
Don McKenzie
2014-07-01 21:11:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Don McKenzie
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it
is up to me to make alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
that would be copper would it?
Ohhps, sorry, yes copper, I didn't read the subject line and absorb it fully.

Cheers Don...
--
Don McKenzie

http://www.dontronics-shop.com

All Olimex products now 30% to 90% off normal Olimex Prices.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/olimex-ltd.html
Many other items discounted up to 90% off.
Also discounts on FTDI, Sparkfun, mELABS, CCS, SimmStick, etc.
Abusive Liar Party
2014-07-01 11:24:31 UTC
Permalink
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
--
Why we kicked out the ALP:
http://nicholsoncartoons.com.au/labor-eyes-super-system-to-fund-budget-surplus-business.html

Bill Shorten, "Oh, yeah, I believe him"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/alp-must-clear-the-air-on-links-to-union/story-fni0ffxg-1226831907309

Australian Liar Party:
"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

"Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that"

Labor's speechwriter...
On Gillard:
"She has not much except a kindergarten sandpit response to things"
"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a 20-year
stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces every
time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no influence, no
friends, no learning. There's not much there"

Latham (after she touched his chest in an interview):
"The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man
and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary".

Labornomics:
http://pokiepleasures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/baee1.jpg

Labor's (overcrowded) sweat shops:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/centrelink-workers-timed-on-the-toilet/story-e6frfm9r-1226128924769


Because of Labor:
* Australia is currently paying $1 billion a month in interest;
* Australia would have the fastest growth in *spending* and 3rd fastest
growth in net *debt* of 17 countries profiled by the IMF;
* As a result, without action, Australia’s gross debt would rise to $667
billion, with an interest bill of nearly $3 billion a month

The ALP 'achievements':
1. Six hundred thousand more unemployed
2. Three fewer car manufacturers (3 minus 3 equals zero)
3. A decimated aluminium industry
4. Doubled electricity costs
5. Quarter of a million immigrants without *any* new infrasructure
6. Fourteen thousand plus pages of legislation.
7. Thousands of words of abuse
8. Four deceased apprentices
9. One thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers
10. A handbag with an affinity for small Asian women
11. A world's greatest treasurer
12. Three huge promises (Gonski, NDIS and health)
13. Cancellation of half of the "$500b investment pipeline"
14. Another stolen generation of Aboriginal kids
15. 1,000 asylum seeker kids in detention
16. 50,000 unwanted, unqualified visa cheats.
17. Two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president
18. One paedophile. One convicted, that is.
19. A prime suspect for rape.
Speaking of which:
20. Several seemingly endless investigations
21. A AAA-rated slush fund manager
22. Half a trillion dollars of debt

The ALP's war on money:
http://2.static.australianindependentbusinessmedia.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/Pic1.png?itok=VEJ1S04n

Who squandered the mining boom?
http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif

The ALP's war on Australia:
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905

The ALP's preference to Gillard...
http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To

Labor's legacy:
http://www.laborsmess.com.au/
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ScreenHunter_03-Oct.-07-08.43.gif
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2013/November/5281-quarterly.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210

"Don't write crap. Can't be that hard. And when you have written
complete crap, then I think you should correct it" - Julia Gillard
http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale

"Socialism or Communism; the first is suicide, the second murder. In the
end you have a dead body either way" - Ayn Rand

#auspol #ausdebate
Gordon Levi
2014-07-01 14:23:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
Clocky
2014-07-01 14:30:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
Mobile internet is a joke.

He who is terminally stupid doesn't understand why forward thinking
infrastructure spending is a positive thing that drives a nation forward
and the dragging back to the dark ages by the current crop of
destructive and vindictive arseholes in government is destroying the
future of this country.
Abusive Liar Party
2014-07-01 15:47:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that it
would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.

At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
--
Why we kicked out the ALP:
http://nicholsoncartoons.com.au/labor-eyes-super-system-to-fund-budget-surplus-business.html

Bill Shorten, "Oh, yeah, I believe him"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/alp-must-clear-the-air-on-links-to-union/story-fni0ffxg-1226831907309

Australian Liar Party:
"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

"Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that"

Labor's speechwriter...
On Gillard:
"She has not much except a kindergarten sandpit response to things"
"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a 20-year
stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces every
time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no influence, no
friends, no learning. There's not much there"

Latham (after she touched his chest in an interview):
"The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man
and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary".

Labornomics:
http://pokiepleasures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/baee1.jpg

Labor's (overcrowded) sweat shops:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/centrelink-workers-timed-on-the-toilet/story-e6frfm9r-1226128924769


Because of Labor:
* Australia is currently paying $1 billion a month in interest;
* Australia would have the fastest growth in *spending* and 3rd fastest
growth in net *debt* of 17 countries profiled by the IMF;
* As a result, without action, Australia’s gross debt would rise to $667
billion, with an interest bill of nearly $3 billion a month

The ALP 'achievements':
1. Six hundred thousand more unemployed
2. Three fewer car manufacturers (3 minus 3 equals zero)
3. A decimated aluminium industry
4. Doubled electricity costs
5. Quarter of a million immigrants without *any* new infrasructure
6. Fourteen thousand plus pages of legislation.
7. Thousands of words of abuse
8. Four deceased apprentices
9. One thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers
10. A handbag with an affinity for small Asian women
11. A world's greatest treasurer
12. Three huge promises (Gonski, NDIS and health)
13. Cancellation of half of the "$500b investment pipeline"
14. Another stolen generation of Aboriginal kids
15. 1,000 asylum seeker kids in detention
16. 50,000 unwanted, unqualified visa cheats.
17. Two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president
18. One paedophile. One convicted, that is.
19. A prime suspect for rape.
Speaking of which:
20. Several seemingly endless investigations
21. A AAA-rated slush fund manager
22. Half a trillion dollars of debt

The ALP's war on money:
http://2.static.australianindependentbusinessmedia.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/Pic1.png?itok=VEJ1S04n

Who squandered the mining boom?
http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif

The ALP's war on Australia:
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905

The ALP's preference to Gillard...
http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To

Labor's legacy:
http://www.laborsmess.com.au/
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ScreenHunter_03-Oct.-07-08.43.gif
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2013/November/5281-quarterly.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210

"Don't write crap. Can't be that hard. And when you have written
complete crap, then I think you should correct it" - Julia Gillard
http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale

"Socialism or Communism; the first is suicide, the second murder. In the
end you have a dead body either way" - Ayn Rand

#auspol #ausdebate
Dechucka
2014-07-01 22:03:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that it
would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Clocky
2014-07-01 23:12:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will
have to do it anyway.
Dechucka
2014-07-01 23:30:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-03 19:42:45 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
Dechucka
2014-07-03 21:29:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-05 21:15:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?

AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
Dechucka
2014-07-05 22:02:59 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the
vision
to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?
AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
You do realise the e.g. I gave you of rural businesses benefiting from the
NBN was outside the capital cities don't you. However FYI
http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-06 09:19:23 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the
vision
to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?
AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
You do realise the e.g. I gave you of rural businesses benefiting from the
NBN was outside the capital cities don't you.
Which confirms my point exactly: A comment from city folks who have no
clue what the country and the capital-city/country divide is actually
about!
Post by Dechucka
However FYI
http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html
Yep, that confirms what I remember. In the NT, WA and SA none of the
country has "(A) Service available". In QLD, NSW and VIC there are
perhaps a few which might be considered "country" in the context of the
capital-city/country divide.
Dechucka
2014-07-06 21:46:56 UTC
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Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told
them
that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a
third
rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will
have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the
vision
to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?
AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
You do realise the e.g. I gave you of rural businesses benefiting from the
NBN was outside the capital cities don't you.
Which confirms my point exactly: A comment from city folks who have no
clue what the country and the capital-city/country divide is actually
about!
Post by Dechucka
However FYI
http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html
Yep, that confirms what I remember. In the NT, WA and SA none of the
country has "(A) Service available". In QLD, NSW and VIC there are
perhaps a few which might be considered "country" in the context of the
capital-city/country divide.
So basically you were wrong there is lots of NBN outside the Capital cities
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-07 18:31:32 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can
stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to
me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told
them
that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a
global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a
third
rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will
have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the
vision
to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the
Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?
AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
You do realise the e.g. I gave you of rural businesses benefiting from the
NBN was outside the capital cities don't you.
Which confirms my point exactly: A comment from city folks who have no
clue what the country and the capital-city/country divide is actually
about!
Post by Dechucka
However FYI
http://www.nbnco.com.au/develop-or-plan-with-the-nbn/check-rollout-map.html
Yep, that confirms what I remember. In the NT, WA and SA none of the
country has "(A) Service available". In QLD, NSW and VIC there are
perhaps a few which might be considered "country" in the context of the
capital-city/country divide.
So basically you were wrong there is lots of NBN outside the Capital cities
It's a tad hard to be 'wrong' about a position I never held.

So as I wrote in the other thread, neither/both of us are
'wrong'/'right', we just are (not) 'discussing' *different* points.
Gordon Levi
2014-07-06 09:54:14 UTC
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Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale, the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will have
to do it anyway.
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
a goodly percent
Cite (i.e. URL)?
The answer is 23.04% plus the satellite coverage! With this
calculation I would like to enter my name for the Abusive Liar award
for precision calculations on insufficient data. The number is based
on 106,000 fixed wireless premises installed
<http://tinyurl.com/mzzd443>. There are a total of, say, 11.5 million
premises (<http://tinyurl.com/o67ut6c> Section 2.1). Of those 4% were
going to be connected by fixed wireless. Hence
<http://tinyurl.com/lv3nr45>.
Post by Frank Slootweg
AFAIK, it's still zero. If it's non-zero, it's probably either
non-country or the not the country side of the divide.
Of course, you will now define the fixed wireless coverage as "not the
country side of the divide" whatever that means.
Abusive Liar Party
2014-07-03 21:43:51 UTC
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...
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
There were/are a lot of problems with the implementation but the vision to
drag us into the 21st century is what was needed. Unfortunately for a
country like Aus this was always going to be a gov. programme as private
enterprise would only ever pick the eyes out of it and further the Capital
city country divide
Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?
The ALP achieved 100% of their press release quota in only a few months.

The NBNCO home page (gone now) with the green ribbon and the 1950s
USSR-style image with the shiny-eyed bloke going off to work (whilst his
wife stayed at home) was a classic.

And it has come true. Enrolments of women in STEM professions halved
under the ALP. Now we are learning that for some women it is cheaper to
stay at home than to pay for child care (another ALP Passionfinger job).
For someone who had a lot to say about misogyny, Gillard did do much to
help women - she set equality of women back 50 years.

But I digress. Under the ALP, the NBN rollout rate didn't even keep up
with immigration - and, because they were overbuilding places with very
good existing ADSL2 access, like Blacktown, they actually took us
backwards. And I haven't even talked about take up rate!
--
Why we kicked out the ALP:
http://nicholsoncartoons.com.au/labor-eyes-super-system-to-fund-budget-surplus-business.html

Bill Shorten, "Oh, yeah, I believe him"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/alp-must-clear-the-air-on-links-to-union/story-fni0ffxg-1226831907309

Australian Liar Party:
"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

"Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that"

Labor's speechwriter...
On Gillard:
"She has not much except a kindergarten sandpit response to things"
"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a 20-year
stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces every
time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no influence, no
friends, no learning. There's not much there"

Latham (after she touched his chest in an interview):
"The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man
and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary".

Labornomics:
http://pokiepleasures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/baee1.jpg

Labor's (overcrowded) sweat shops:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/centrelink-workers-timed-on-the-toilet/story-e6frfm9r-1226128924769


Because of Labor:
* Australia is currently paying $1 billion a month in interest;
* Australia would have the fastest growth in *spending* and 3rd fastest
growth in net *debt* of 17 countries profiled by the IMF;
* As a result, without action, Australia’s gross debt would rise to $667
billion, with an interest bill of nearly $3 billion a month

The ALP 'achievements':
1. Six hundred thousand more unemployed
2. Three fewer car manufacturers (3 minus 3 equals zero)
3. A decimated aluminium industry
4. Doubled electricity costs
5. Quarter of a million immigrants without *any* new infrasructure
6. Fourteen thousand plus pages of legislation.
7. Thousands of words of abuse
8. Four deceased apprentices
9. One thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers
10. A handbag with an affinity for small Asian women
11. A world's greatest treasurer
12. Three huge promises (Gonski, NDIS and health)
13. Cancellation of half of the "$500b investment pipeline"
14. Another stolen generation of Aboriginal kids
15. 1,000 asylum seeker kids in detention
16. 50,000 unwanted, unqualified visa cheats.
17. Two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president
18. One paedophile. One convicted, that is.
19. A prime suspect for rape.
Speaking of which:
20. Several seemingly endless investigations
21. A AAA-rated slush fund manager
22. Half a trillion dollars of debt

The ALP's war on money:
http://2.static.australianindependentbusinessmedia.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/Pic1.png?itok=VEJ1S04n

Who squandered the mining boom?
http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif

The ALP's war on Australia:
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905

The ALP's preference to Gillard...
http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To

Labor's legacy:
http://www.laborsmess.com.au/
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ScreenHunter_03-Oct.-07-08.43.gif
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2013/November/5281-quarterly.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210

"Don't write crap. Can't be that hard. And when you have written
complete crap, then I think you should correct it" - Julia Gillard
http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale

"Socialism or Communism; the first is suicide, the second murder. In the
end you have a dead body either way" - Ayn Rand

#auspol #ausdebate
Abusive Liar Party
2014-07-02 06:04:47 UTC
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Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?

Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you
brain and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
Post by Clocky
the destructive LNP fuckwits are leaving a legacy of a third rate
network which will cost much more to upgrade when we inevitably will
have to do it anyway.
--
Why we kicked out the ALP:
http://nicholsoncartoons.com.au/labor-eyes-super-system-to-fund-budget-surplus-business.html

Bill Shorten, "Oh, yeah, I believe him"
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/alp-must-clear-the-air-on-links-to-union/story-fni0ffxg-1226831907309

Australian Liar Party:
"There will be no carbon tax under the government I lead"

"Well certainly what we rejected is this hysterical allegation that
somehow we are moving towards a carbon tax from the Liberals in their
advertising. We certainly reject that"

Labor's speechwriter...
On Gillard:
"She has not much except a kindergarten sandpit response to things"
"One thing is sure - there will be no Gillard era. This is not a 20-year
stretch. Civilised people's hands are already over their faces every
time she speaks. That cannot last. She has no power, no influence, no
friends, no learning. There's not much there"

Latham (after she touched his chest in an interview):
"The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man
and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary".

Labornomics:
http://pokiepleasures.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/baee1.jpg

Labor's (overcrowded) sweat shops:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/centrelink-workers-timed-on-the-toilet/story-e6frfm9r-1226128924769


Because of Labor:
* Australia is currently paying $1 billion a month in interest;
* Australia would have the fastest growth in *spending* and 3rd fastest
growth in net *debt* of 17 countries profiled by the IMF;
* As a result, without action, Australia’s gross debt would rise to $667
billion, with an interest bill of nearly $3 billion a month

The ALP 'achievements':
1. Six hundred thousand more unemployed
2. Three fewer car manufacturers (3 minus 3 equals zero)
3. A decimated aluminium industry
4. Doubled electricity costs
5. Quarter of a million immigrants without *any* new infrasructure
6. Fourteen thousand plus pages of legislation.
7. Thousands of words of abuse
8. Four deceased apprentices
9. One thousand two hundred drowned asylum seekers
10. A handbag with an affinity for small Asian women
11. A world's greatest treasurer
12. Three huge promises (Gonski, NDIS and health)
13. Cancellation of half of the "$500b investment pipeline"
14. Another stolen generation of Aboriginal kids
15. 1,000 asylum seeker kids in detention
16. 50,000 unwanted, unqualified visa cheats.
17. Two fraud artists - an MP and an ALP national president
18. One paedophile. One convicted, that is.
19. A prime suspect for rape.
Speaking of which:
20. Several seemingly endless investigations
21. A AAA-rated slush fund manager
22. Half a trillion dollars of debt

The ALP's war on money:
http://2.static.australianindependentbusinessmedia.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/Pic1.png?itok=VEJ1S04n

Who squandered the mining boom?
http://www.rba.gov.au/publications/bulletin/2009/jan/images/lvl-dist-mining-graph3.gif

The ALP's war on Australia:
http://www.menzieshouse.com.au/?p=4905

The ALP's preference to Gillard...
http://youtu.be/PguhkVG49To

Labor's legacy:
http://www.laborsmess.com.au/
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/ScreenHunter_03-Oct.-07-08.43.gif
http://youtu.be/lePrBUHihKI
http://www.roymorgan.com/~/media/Files/Morgan%20Poll/2013/November/5281-quarterly.jpg
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-05-16/boat-arrivals-by-year-graph/4694210

"Don't write crap. Can't be that hard. And when you have written
complete crap, then I think you should correct it" - Julia Gillard
http://tinyurl.com/Gillard4Sale

"Socialism or Communism; the first is suicide, the second murder. In the
end you have a dead body either way" - Ayn Rand

#auspol #ausdebate
Dechucka
2014-07-02 22:02:28 UTC
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Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-03 19:42:46 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
Dechucka
2014-07-03 21:30:26 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Clocky
Post by Dechucka
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-05 21:15:06 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
Dechucka
2014-07-05 22:04:44 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently doesn't exist
outside Capital cities coming along?
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-06 09:45:29 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed you could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently doesn't exist
outside Capital cities coming along?
That's not my "belief", it's the kind of misguided belief that many
city folks have.

*My* point is about "the digital divide" (which you - incorrectly -
described as "the Capital city country divide"). The promise was that
the NBN would decrease the digital divide by bringing broadband to
places where there was no broadband. Uptill now, the NBN is doing no
such thing. It's only bringing *'better'* broadband, where there already
*was* broadband.
Dechucka
2014-07-06 21:48:48 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that don't can
stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told
them
that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you
brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed
you
could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently doesn't exist
outside Capital cities coming along?
That's not my "belief", it's the kind of misguided belief that many
city folks have.
*My* point is about "the digital divide" (which you - incorrectly -
described as "the Capital city country divide"). The promise was that
the NBN would decrease the digital divide by bringing broadband to
places where there was no broadband. Uptill now, the NBN is doing no
such thing. It's only bringing *'better'* broadband, where there already
*was* broadband.
so as you were wrong you are backing away from your claim and trying to
redefine the argument
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-07 18:24:32 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can
stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing
service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to
me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told
them
that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a
global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable. Use you
brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed
you
could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently doesn't exist
outside Capital cities coming along?
That's not my "belief", it's the kind of misguided belief that many
city folks have.
*My* point is about "the digital divide" (which you - incorrectly -
described as "the Capital city country divide"). The promise was that
the NBN would decrease the digital divide by bringing broadband to
places where there was no broadband. Uptill now, the NBN is doing no
such thing. It's only bringing *'better'* broadband, where there already
*was* broadband.
so as you were wrong you are backing away from your claim and trying to
redefine the argument
I made no claim whatsoever. That my point differs from yours doesn't
make me wrong, and vice versa for you. Bummer heh, when nobody 'lost'
and nobody 'won'!? :-)
Dechucka
2014-07-07 22:11:53 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that don't can
stick
with
what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing
service
will
be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up
to
me
to
make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the
NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could
just
close
it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told
them
that
it would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us compete on a
global
scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not acceptable.
Use
you
brain
and come up with an original answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had decent speed
you
could
do your own internet search, remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!? You're
joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL setup, big <beep>ing
deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently doesn't exist
outside Capital cities coming along?
That's not my "belief", it's the kind of misguided belief that many
city folks have.
*My* point is about "the digital divide" (which you - incorrectly -
described as "the Capital city country divide"). The promise was that
the NBN would decrease the digital divide by bringing broadband to
places where there was no broadband. Uptill now, the NBN is doing no
such thing. It's only bringing *'better'* broadband, where there already
*was* broadband.
so as you were wrong you are backing away from your claim and trying to
redefine the argument
I made no claim whatsoever. That my point differs from yours doesn't
make me wrong, and vice versa for you. Bummer heh, when nobody 'lost'
and nobody 'won'!? :-)
True this is Usenet. However it would be nice if you could actually back up
your statements
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-08 15:42:01 UTC
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Those who want need it can use it those that
don't can stick with what they have. It's called
CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my
existing service will be permanently switched of
on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and
Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the
NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They
could just close it down if that's what the majority
want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If
you told them that it would cost them $10,000 per
home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still
want it?
yes and of course that is why our trading partners are
as well
Yep, now, instead of getting a network that lets us
compete on a global scale,
How does the NBN allow a farmer to "compete on a global scale"?
Please note that parotting ALP propaganda is not
acceptable. Use you brain and come up with an original
answer, that is, if possible.
An e.g. for you http://tinyurl.com/p66w2wb if you had
decent speed you could do your own internet search,
remember Google is your friend
Willunga isn't exactly Woop Woop, is it? And *12/1 Mbps*!?
You're joking, right!? So they didn't have a good ADSL
setup, big <beep>ing deal!
It was AN e.g. lots of others if you are interested
Sorry, doesn't compute! What is "AN"?
a shouted an, btw how is your belief that the NBN currently
doesn't exist outside Capital cities coming along?
That's not my "belief", it's the kind of misguided belief that many
city folks have.
*My* point is about "the digital divide" (which you
- incorrectly - described as "the Capital city country divide").
The promise was that the NBN would decrease the digital divide by
bringing broadband to places where there was no broadband. Uptill
now, the NBN is doing no such thing. It's only bringing
*'better'* broadband, where there already *was* broadband.
so as you were wrong you are backing away from your claim and
trying to redefine the argument
I made no claim whatsoever. That my point differs from yours
doesn't make me wrong, and vice versa for you. Bummer heh, when
nobody 'lost' and nobody 'won'!? :-)
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.

I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Dechucka
2014-07-09 01:04:19 UTC
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True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-09 12:57:04 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!

Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.

Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.

Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!

(AFAIC,) EOD.
Dechucka
2014-07-09 23:35:33 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
(AFAIC,) EOD.
Dechucka
2014-07-09 23:43:18 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-10 19:52:28 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!

*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this kind of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(

[Restore:]
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
(AFAIC,) EOD.
Dechucka
2014-07-10 22:12:20 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!
*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this kind of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(
This whole thing started with your comment "Yes, and that decreasing the
capital-city/country divide worked out
*so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out now?"
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-12 17:10:35 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama - and of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!
*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this kind of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(
This whole thing started with your comment "Yes, and that decreasing the
capital-city/country divide worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much
above 0% is the country roll-out now?"
Yes, and your point is!? Hint: Exactly where did I write "rural"
or/and "regional Australia"? Hint2: These are two of those rethorical
thingies.

[Restore^2:]
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
[Restore:]
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
(AFAIC,) EOD.
====
Dechucka
2014-07-12 20:55:12 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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snip
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Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband
before
and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which
parts
of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama -
and
of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!
*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this kind of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(
This whole thing started with your comment "Yes, and that decreasing the
capital-city/country divide worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much
above 0% is the country roll-out now?"
Yes, and your point is!? Hint: Exactly where did I write "rural"
or/and "regional Australia"? Hint2: These are two of those rethorical
thingies.
[Restore^2:]
True you wrote "Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide
worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out
now?" and were shown to be wrong
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-12 21:53:44 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
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Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened
before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband
before
and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such
places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which
parts
of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama -
and
of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!
*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this kind of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(
This whole thing started with your comment "Yes, and that decreasing the
capital-city/country divide worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much
above 0% is the country roll-out now?"
Yes, and your point is!? Hint: Exactly where did I write "rural"
or/and "regional Australia"? Hint2: These are two of those rethorical
thingies.
[Restore^2:]
True you wrote "Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide
worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out
now?" and were shown to be wrong
Give it up! You keep dodging like there is no tomorrow. And earth to
Dechucka: One can not be 'wrong', when one is just asking a question.

*E*O*D*
Dechucka
2014-07-12 22:28:18 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened
before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband
before
and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such
places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which
parts
of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Post by Frank Slootweg
Never mind that we/I were/was talking in the context of the "digital
divide", which, as I said, is about 'country' - i.e. not Kiama -
and
of
course excludes greenfield areas, because they were uninhabited before,
i.e. *by definition* did not have broadband.
exactly but have it now in answer to your qquestion
Post by Frank Slootweg
Moral: Leave the straw men in the paddocks!
Actually to continue you should really define what you mean by
rural/regional Australia
Maybe I should, *if* I had used those terms, but I didn't!
*You* said "rural". I didn't use the terms, because they were not
relevant/needed, and I avoided them to try to avoid exactly this
kind
of
non-discussion about them. See how much good *that* did!? :-(
This whole thing started with your comment "Yes, and that decreasing the
capital-city/country divide worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much
above 0% is the country roll-out now?"
Yes, and your point is!? Hint: Exactly where did I write "rural"
or/and "regional Australia"? Hint2: These are two of those rethorical
thingies.
[Restore^2:]
True you wrote "Yes, and that decreasing the capital-city/country divide
worked out *so* well, didn't it!? How much above 0% is the country roll-out
now?" and were shown to be wrong
Give it up! You keep dodging like there is no tomorrow. And earth to
Dechucka: One can not be 'wrong', when one is just asking a question.
You were wrong because you were shown where the rollout was occuring outside
capital cities you then tried to argue you didn't mean that 'outside capital
cities' but some other thing. Come on Frank the roll out has not been
managed well but it is occurring and will keep us competitive
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-10 19:52:28 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Sigh! Again Logic 101! One *cannot* (as in: it is impossible) prove a
negative. The burden of proof is on the one - i.e. *you* - who says that
there is/was such a no-broadband area in "Parts of Kiama".

And please do yourself a favor and do not even try to find such a
place, because you will fall in yet another self-inflicted trap.

[More miscomprehension deleted.]
Dechucka
2014-07-10 22:17:48 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Sigh! Again Logic 101! One *cannot* (as in: it is impossible) prove a
negative. The burden of proof is on the one - i.e. *you* - who says that
there is/was such a no-broadband area in "Parts of Kiama".
OK OK I see the problem, you don't understand the difference between
braoadband and high speed broadband which Kiama (parts of) now has access to
Post by Frank Slootweg
And please do yourself a favor and do not even try to find such a
place, because you will fall in yet another self-inflicted trap.
[More miscomprehension deleted.]
Frank Slootweg
2014-07-12 17:02:06 UTC
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Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband before and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Sigh! Again Logic 101! One *cannot* (as in: it is impossible) prove a
negative. The burden of proof is on the one - i.e. *you* - who says that
there is/was such a no-broadband area in "Parts of Kiama".
OK OK I see the problem, you don't understand the difference between
braoadband and high speed broadband which Kiama (parts of) now has access to
OK, OK, I see the problem, you can't handle being 'wrong', so you back
pedal and redefine your claim. Yet another Logic 101 failure.

EOD.
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
And please do yourself a favor and do not even try to find such a
place, because you will fall in yet another self-inflicted trap.
[More miscomprehension deleted.]
Dechucka
2014-07-12 20:56:46 UTC
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Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
snip
Post by Frank Slootweg
Post by Dechucka
True this is Usenet.
Figure that, a 'misunderstanding' on Usenet. Never happened before.
News at eleven! :-)
Post by Dechucka
However it would be nice if you could actually
back up your statements
Sorry, but it's impossible to prove a negative. Logic 101.
I say there are no places which did not have any broadband
before
and
where there is now (NBN) broadband. If you think there are such places,
the burden of proof is on you.
Parts of Kiama and any connections to greenfield areas, next
Sigh! Try to keep up, try to read for comprehension and try to read
within context!
Note "which did not have ANY broadband before"! Exactly which parts of
Kiama did not have ANY broadband before? Answer: none.
really, cite please
Sigh! Again Logic 101! One *cannot* (as in: it is impossible) prove a
negative. The burden of proof is on the one - i.e. *you* - who says that
there is/was such a no-broadband area in "Parts of Kiama".
OK OK I see the problem, you don't understand the difference between
braoadband and high speed broadband which Kiama (parts of) now has access to
OK, OK, I see the problem, you can't handle being 'wrong', so you back
pedal and redefine your claim. Yet another Logic 101 failure.
Nice one Frank in a thread on the NBN you were talking about ADSL broadband,
you're right you got me
Gordon Levi
2014-07-02 06:16:40 UTC
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Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that it
would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
But you said that most people will choose only a mobile connection.
Why would they care about the hype for a connection they are not going
to use?
Post by Abusive Liar Party
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
Even sillier for the government to persist. Why doesn't Turnbull
explain that it will cost $60,000 per home and that most householders
won't want it anyway.
F Murtz
2016-08-01 10:03:13 UTC
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Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Gordon Levi
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
So why is the government persisting with it? They could just close it
down if that's what the majority want.
The majority want the hype that Labor promised. If you told them that it
would cost them $10,000 per home, they would not want it.
At 15% take-up it will cost $60,000 per home. Still want it?
As long as you are paying for it yes. :)
F Murtz
2016-08-01 10:02:05 UTC
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Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
Highly unlikely, there is going to be both fixed cell wireless and FTTN
here shortly and I know which I will be opting for.
Petzl
2016-08-01 10:13:14 UTC
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Post by F Murtz
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
Highly unlikely, there is going to be both fixed cell wireless and FTTN
here shortly and I know which I will be opting for.
The NBN could make need for mobile obsolete.
I have the Telstra $99 a month plan free calls to Australia land lines
and mobile. The modem they give also allows Telstra customers to use
"Testra Air" which transmits from every Telstra NBN modem.
--
Petzl
Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens"
*LAST*, Federal State and Council!
Or you are voting for Islam and Sharia.
F Murtz
2016-08-01 10:14:03 UTC
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Post by F Murtz
Post by Abusive Liar Party
Post by Don McKenzie
Post by Dechucka
Those who want need it can use it those that don't can stick with what
they have. It's called CHOICE
I'm afraid it isn't.
You don't get a choice.
I have a letter from NBN Co stating that my existing service will be
permanently switched of on 14 August 2015, and it is up to me to make
alternative arrangements for my home phone and Internet.
Cheers Don...
Most people will go exclusively mobile and ignore the NBN.
Highly unlikely, there is going to be both fixed cell wireless and FTTN
here shortly and I know which I will be opting for.
I have done it again replying to old posts.

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